Sharing Ideas On PhilNavs Finances from CebuNavs E-group: By the time, na-outlined na ilang action, patay na ang tabangonon!

CEBUNAV ALUMNI SHARE THEIR OPINION

NavAlumni from Cebu initiated a discussion on finances of the PhilNavs and ended up with the survey on the perception not only on finances but on the PhilNavs itself and its staffs.

This is a good indication that our alumni are now wanting to partner with us in the ministry. This may not be a representative of the whole alumni but definitely this is worth considering.

I posted here their responses as is, and its up to you how you would interpret them. The discussion is still on going and I will be posting important developments. I personally sense that our alumni is now ready to play a bigger role in the ministry that God has entrusted to us.

For the staff and the leadership there are definitely lessons we can pick-up from our alumni...

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SURVEY RESULTS

I. Profile of the Respondents in relation to Navs.
	A. Nav Involvement
	1. How long have you been involved with the Navs
		a. Less than one year
		b. 1-3 years
		c. 3-5 years	3	10.7%
		d. 5-10 years	6	21.4%
		e. More than 10 years	19	67.9%
		Votes so far:	28	100.0%

Friday, April 3, 2009

By the time, na-outlined na ilang action, patay na ang tabangonon!

Hi Oxy and All,

I can see why you used "alias" kay there's a risk in everything man gyod for us to be misinterpreted or misunderstood, no matter how valid our points are. And oftentimes, being blunt is the best way to go so that your message will make a hit.

I buy your points esp in this latest email. Pls. take note: those who worked hard for the survey, I appreciate your work.

Here's my side of the story. When we were discussing and planning to present our issues thru a survey result, ako dayong comment, "Nah, magsurvey pa sila." Don't get me wrong, I participated in the survey and even gave comments on the voice out box. But why did I say this? What came to my mind man gud is a favorite scenario among gov't employees ( I was once a gov't. employee) nga naa na'y masakiton nangayo ug tabang, ang action nila nag-meeting and series of meetings. By the time, na-outlined na ilang action, patay na ang tabangonon! I may be exaggerating, but there's some good analogy if we do this in a Christian community. In addition pud sa kang Oxy, remember the story about a man who threw back the starfishes to the ocean?

Now, considering the scenario of the survey results and in addition to what Oxy presented, what if only the 3 of us (Ai,Au & myself kay kami ra man pud ni verbalize) felt strongly for the personal connection bet. the donors (actually the Navs themselves call them ministry partners) and the staff, what will happen to our concern?

I hope the Navs leadership will give a thorough consideration for all the issues presented, that is regardless of the statistical results, as long as the issues are valid and would help build the community and the kingdom. Kumbaga, treat the survey as an indication of what should be done, whether it has a significant representation or not.

Again, I appreciate those who participated in the survey. To the framers of the survey, you were also doing what you think is best. Let me borrow Pres. Obama's statement,"Let the perfect not be the enemy of the essential."

Thank you also Oxy for calling our attention to the essential. Pero mora'g insakto gyod kos akong tagna bahin nimo, he,he,he!

Lani Gador-Johnson

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Personal Comments on the Results

I. Profile of the Respondents in Relation to Navs.

A. Nav Involvement

1. How Long have you been involve with the Navs?
There are about 170 members of the CebuNavs egroup for various reasons many only enjoy reading rather than posting. Only 28 alumni joined the survey and I guess these are the same people who are involved in the discussion. Most of them have been in the Navs for more than 10 years (68%). So I would conclude that these are the people who would like to have a meaningful involvement with the Navs and Nav Work...

Imagine 28 alumni from Cebu alone who would be willing to get involve.. if God can use 1 man, Jesus trained twelved, 28 for me is a big number and could accomplish a lot. So I would never discount this survey.

2. At what stage of your life were you contacted by the Navs?

There are 25 out of 28 who answered this, and its amazing to to note that 88% of them came from the campus. For me, it's telling us that those who were contacted from the campuses are still the backbone of our ministry. This is probably because of the long time that we were together. As we pursue Small Biblical community, our alumni from the campus will continue to play a big role because they are Navigators. So let us not lie low in our campus ministry, this is still our niche and I believe God has given us the campus horizon to expand His Kingdom. How do we integrate this in our pursuit of SBCs? I think Los Banos is doing a certain model. Cebu has a different model, but campus should still be in the center of our ministry.

3. Who introduce you to the Navs?

It showed that these people came to the Navs from different channels, from classmates, friends, staff and relatives. The Staff only ranked third in terms of contacting these people. Classmates and relatives did most of the introduction. This is understandable because the staff usually is the one doing the follow-up. Their contacts are the ones recruiting their classmates to attend or come to a BS.

4. What Nav activities were you involved in (multiple answers allowed)?

The respondents put fellowship at the top, this I supposed was the kind of fellowship that we used to do, lowest is community meeting (the SBC kind of meeting). This is understandable because we have just recently started SBC. Amazing to note that many of them have attended trainings/conferences, lead BS and some are even in the ministry leadership. This tells us that these are really the people that we can listen to.

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2 At what stage of your life were you contacted by the Navs
	a. As a student	22	88.0%
	b. As working single professional	2	8.0%
	c. As married	1	4.0%
	d. As retired		0.0%
	Votes so far	25	100.0%

3 Who introduced you to the Navs
	a. Classmate	9	34.6%
	b. Friend (boy friend/girl friend included)	3	11.5%
	c. Nav Staff (other Nav leaders included)	6	23.1%
	d. Relative (husband/wife included)	7	26.9%
	e. No one, I just saw them and join	1	3.8%
	Votes so far	26	100.0%

4. What Nav activities were you involved in (multiple answers allowed)
	a. Ministry Leadership	10	38.5%
	b. Leading Bible study	20	76.9%
	c. Witnessing	20	76.9%
	d. Fellowships	23	88.5%
	e. Conferences and training programs	21	80.8%
	f. Community meetings	9	34.6%
	g. Fund raising	11	42.3%
	h Doing any of the spiritual disciplines (Bible reading, Scripture Memory, quiet time, Prayers and DIPs etc)	22	84.6%
	i I need to explain (Please write your explanation on the voice out box.)	1	3.8%
	Votes so far	26	100.0%

I. Profile of the Respondents in relation to Navs.
	A. Nav Involvement
		1. How long have you been involved with the Navs
		2 At what stage of your life were you contacted by the Navs
		3 Who introduced you to the Navs
		4. What Nav activities were you involved in (multiple answers allowed)
		5. I describe my involvement (giving or/and actual ministry) with the Navs as
		6. Did anyone of the Phil Nav staff, Nav contact or Nav alumni communicate to you when you went somewhere ?
		7. My present connection with the Navs is mainly because
		8 How do you rate your present ministry involvement with the PhilNavs in terms of support and/or actual ministry work.
		9 With your past and present involvement with the Navs, do you consider yourself as a Navigator?
	B Personal Knowledge of the Navs
		10. My knowledge of the PhilNavs is based on the time (you can select more than1)
		11. As far as the Phil. Navigators as an organization is concerned I am aware of (means I know at least 60% .multiple choices allowed)
		12 My perception of the PhilNavs (do not check if at least you don’t perceive it at 70% level, you can have multiple answers)
		13. My perception of the Navstaff. (the word “most” is near 80% level and “some” is near 20% level, you can have multiple answers)
II Giving and Financial Support
	A. Personal Conviction on Giving
		14. For me, giving is (multiple answers allowed)
		15. I consider the money I give to the following as part of my giving (multiple answers allowed)
	B. My personal conviction on giving to the Navs.
		16 My giving or not giving to the Navs is generally affected by:
		17 I do not give to the Navs because (multiple answer allowed) OR Im giving now but if I stop giving NOW to the Navs the possible reason would be;
		18 I give to the Navs because (multiple aswers allowed)
		19 My Present giving or my plan of giving to the Navs is (multiple answers allowed)
		20 As a donor or someone who is considering to give to the Navs , how I wish (multiple answer allowed)

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